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hank
Member

USA
159 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2008 :  11:27:32  Show Profile
Hi all,

Thought I'd post a link to a company that sells Pipe Burners. They also sell Safety Shutoff Valves (Safety Control Valves) and Thermocouples. The Safety Valve run about $45.00 each. Using both the Safety Valve and Thermocouple, if the flame goes out, the Propane is Shutoff, preventing a Nasty Explosion !

The Company is Burnersinc. http://www.burnersinc.com

Another source for Pipe Buners is: http://www.pigcookersbyralph.com
They are in Raliegh NC. Their Venturi's are quite expensive. I suggest Tejas Smokers.

Also, the Folks at Tejas Smokers, sell Venturi (Air/Gas Mixers). These people are Great about answering questions about the construction of Pipe Burners.

http://www.tejassmokers.com

Just wanted to pass this info along to the forum.

Hank

Cooks Rule !

Edited by - hank on 08/31/2008 19:05:10

CarolinaQue
Member

USA
3687 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2008 :  12:50:05  Show Profile
Hank,

Thanks for providing info on how to do this safely!!!

Tim

"What you achieve, or fail to achive is only decided by YOU"!!!

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hank
Member

USA
159 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2008 :  20:18:59  Show Profile
Thank You Tim,

I have some additional Info that I'll post on Sunday.

Hank

Cooks Rule !

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bigred77
Starting Member

USA
16 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2008 :  07:03:59  Show Profile
Awesome, thanks Hank.

I will be looking forward to your additional info today, and ordering soon.

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hank
Member

USA
159 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2008 :  18:59:40  Show Profile
Here are two additional sites that sell Pipe Burners. I got busy today, so I'll write up my article Monday Morning before I start Smoking some Chicken, Sweet Potatoes and Corn on the Cob.

Johnson Gas:

http://www.johnsongas.com/industrial/brn-drilled.asp

Brownells: ( do a search for "Pipe Burners" )

http://www.brownells.com

Have a Great Labor Day....

Hank

Cooks Rule !

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scsmoker
Member

1355 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2008 :  19:27:59  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by hank

Here are two additional sites that sell Pipe Burners. I got busy today, so I'll write up my article Monday Morning before I start Smoking some Chicken, Sweet Potatoes and Corn on the Cob.

Johnson Gas:

http://www.johnsongas.com/industrial/brn-drilled.asp

Brownells: ( do a search for "Pipe Burners" )

http://www.brownells.com

Have a Great Labor Day....

Hank

Cooks Rule !



I thought Brownells was familar. Nothing better than Q, Firearms and propane for a great cookout

scsmoker

Lang 84
Ol Bandera/recycled
Traeger Tex

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hank
Member

USA
159 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2008 :  19:54:21  Show Profile
Hey Carolina,

My part of the woods.. Anderson SC Man here !! Guns, BS and BBQ !!

Hank

Cooks Rule !

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Jeffro
Member

USA
801 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2008 :  20:03:38  Show Profile
quote:

I thought Brownells was familar. Nothing better than Q, Firearms and propane for a great cookout


Never dealt with Brownells for BBQ equipment, but they are truly top-drawer folks with whom to deal for firearm parts. I have dealt with them for years and they give great service and stand behind their products 100%.
Best regards,
Jeffro

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scsmoker
Member

1355 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2008 :  20:08:51  Show Profile
Hank,

I am right over here in Dacusville(just outside Easley). You may have smelled the pecan I was burning today

And yeah that was pretty much my day. Smoke a few racks of ribs, a little plinking with the .22s and I have to admit there was a few beer bottles around. Good day, good food and nobody was hurt

Yep Brownells is great to deal with.

scsmoker

Lang 84
Ol Bandera/recycled
Traeger Tex

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hank
Member

USA
159 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2008 :  21:36:59  Show Profile
scsmoker,

Years ago, I picked up a book from a friend about GUNS and Gun Repair. I kept seeing a reference to Blueing and the Process. As I remember, they talked about the Heating Process that had to extend the length of the Barrel of the Gun.. So why not check with a Gunsmith.. Thats how I came across the Brownells Web Site.

Hank

Cooks Rule !

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scsmoker
Member

1355 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2008 :  21:59:52  Show Profile
Hank,

I have dealt with them for years. As any NRA card carring American I have a few firearms to go with my other toys(my cooker and cars). Right now I have a custom 10/22 being built by Clarks customs. Kinda of like the Dave Klose of cookers. This close from each other we should atleast meet one day. There is a little hot dog place by White's on the south end of Anderson Called Austins Dogs. Maybe one day when I am around home for a little while we can get a few.

scsmoker

Lang 84
Ol Bandera/recycled
Traeger Tex

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hank
Member

USA
159 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2008 :  09:33:57  Show Profile
This is the feedback from the folks at TejasSmokers, so I’ll start off with what they told me about Pipe Burners. All Pipes Diameters are the Internal Diameters (ID) and not the External Measurement. The HPGX-1 Venturis use a Maximum of only 6-7 PSI. The Orifice is a #56 Hole (0.0465”). http://wwwtejassmokers.com

for a 3/4" ID Pipe, drill 32, 1/8" holes : Flame Length 16”
for a 1" ID Pipe, drill 50, 1/8" holes : Flame Length 25”
for a 1-1/4" ID Pipe, drill 80 1/8" holes : Flame Length 40”
for a 1-½" ID Pipe, drill 115, 1/8" holes : Flame Length 57”
for 2" ID Pipe, drill 205, 1/8" holes : Flame Length 102”

Notes:

* It is easier to drill the holes into a 1-1/4" or larger size pipe
* Holes can be drilled anywhere in the Pipe
* The pipe must be a straight run. No 45 degree or 90 degree turns.
* Experience has shown that if you want the flames to jump from one hole to
the next when lighting you will space the holes about ½" apart (or less).
* The larger the Internal Diameter of the Pipe the more holes you can drill,
hence the more heat you can develop.
* As for the distance from the Venturi to the first hole…I don’t know of any reason to make it any minimum length.

Here is the Scientific Formula they use:

Cross sectional area equals 3.1416 times the internal radius of the hole squared. We take 80% of the cross sectional area of the pipe as the maximum area to equal the aggregate sum of the cross sectional areas of all the burner holes.

Now, if you look at this Chart http://www.joppaglass.com/burner/highp_chart.html
you’ll see that for a #56 Orifice using 5-6 PSI, you’ll generate between 53614 and 58159 Btu’s per hour. This site also has some other information worth reading. Now,here is a confusing factor that I came across. Take a look at this chart, and find the #56 Orifice. http://www.andersonforrester.com/orifice_capacities/default.html
This chart states a #56 Orifice generates only 15,104 Btu’s at 11 PSI.

More info later.

Hank

Cooks Rule !

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Half Fast
Member

USA
288 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2008 :  13:13:35  Show Profile
Hank, the reason for the difference is that the "joppaglass" chart is a rating for high pressure LP (5-6 psi) and the "anderson/forrester" is a rating for low pressure LP (11" water column). Note the second one is "inches of water" and not "pounds per sq inch". There is a significant difference and must not be confused.

Regards,

Even Half Fast BBQ is better than real fast BBQ!

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hank
Member

USA
159 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2008 :  15:39:34  Show Profile
Thanks Half Fast,

Hank


Cooks Rule !

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g8trwood
Starting Member

27 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2008 :  17:03:27  Show Profile
I have had better luck using a porta-band saw and making saw cuts every 3/4 inch as opposed to drilling the holes. Much faster, don't break bits and a better flame. I typically use 1 1/4 or 1 1/2 black pipe and a 1/16" hole for the orafice and a typical burner length of 48" (36" lit portion). Let us know how the thermocouple works.

PoPoQ, Put some pig in your mouth and a smile on our face.

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hank
Member

USA
159 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2008 :  17:29:05  Show Profile
Thanks to all,

I'm hoping to shed some light on this subject and help those who want to do a good job making a Pipe Burner as well as knowing how to make them correctly and SAFELY !! Good BBQ is NOT worth getting Blown Up for in the Process of Cooking it !

G8trwood,

What size Blade do you use and how do you attach the Orifice ? Also, what distance from the orifice is your First Burner Hole ?

More on this Subject on Tuesday.

Hank

Cooks Rule !

Edited by - hank on 09/01/2008 18:32:02
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